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PostSubject: Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts)   Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts) EmptyWed Sep 23, 2009 8:33 pm

Ok, finally decided on my Gondorian theme and decided to revise my army list. The following represents the defences of the city of Linhir upon the juncture of the rivers Gilrain and Serni.

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Captain of Linhir (Faramir) with Heavy Armour and Bow
Avenger Bolt Thrower with Swift Reload and an Extra Crewman

Ranger Captain (Damrod)
24 Rangers of Gondor (8 with Spears)
23 Osgiliath Veterans (All with Shields, 12 with Spears)
6 Citadel guard with Spears

Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth (Armoured Horse, Lance)
3 Knights of Dol Amroth (Armoured Horses, Lances)
9 Men-at-Arms of Dol Amroth (Pikes)
Colours Sergeant (KoDA) with Banner

Total: 1002


At the moment, the Linhir garrison is represented by the Faramir captain, the Avenger, the CG (guards of some sort) and the Vets. Went for Vets over WoMT for a bit of interest in terms of gameplay, plus I just thought their benefits could be justified as fighting for their homes and respect for their commander. As a much smaller force than other armies, I picture this band being much more loyal and close knit. Not sure whether Rangers are allies or additional defensive elements.
I think that's that. I'm open to any list or background suggestions. For background I mean like what to use the Rangers as or whether you think I need to change elements (background's currently pretty basic). Also open to changes to list to make it more competitive or thematically accurate. Story is the most important thing here.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts)   Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts) EmptyThu Sep 24, 2009 1:49 am

For background i think WD gave some rules for Rangers of Linhir which could be used. I forget the issue but I think they had a lower fight value and courge but where about 5/6 points with no extra wargear.

The list looks soild to me. I'm assuming that the Osgilaith Vets are possibly goignt o be soiders loyal to the Captain and as such they rule is change to protect him.

1 last thing is do you have a WYSIWYG effect with both the Captain and the Vets as that i would like to see.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts)   Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts) EmptyThu Sep 24, 2009 2:22 pm

Really? GW actually covered something on Linhir? Interesting. Though finding it will be hard. Does offer the possibility of specialised Linhir rangers, and there's still the possibility of them being from another fief, say Lebennin.

Yeah, the idea is that the fight bonus comes about through inspiration and loyalty, while the extra courage can be accounted for by defending their homes and as such emboldened by all they hold dear. The captain also embodies this to an extent, even when out on a campaign elsewhere, a strong association being drawn between him and their home, which explains the fight bonus further. In short, not only is he a skilled leader, but he is also a symbol for his men.

What do you mean about WYSIWYG effect? Conversion wise, I'm still looking for a suitable miniature to base the Captain off, but I'm thinking Faramir (which is handy with the stand-in factor) and I don't like the current vet models that much. My plan is to convert standard WoMT with cloaks (river/coastal location can be cold) and a slightly different paint scheme but otherwise they'll be standard (figuring that if they fight in Gondor's wars (proximity as well), as well as not being a prominent city, they'd use standard arms and armour). As there are no WoMT (besides the crewmen which shall be uncloaked), it shouldn't provide any difficulty in game.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts)   Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts) EmptyThu Sep 24, 2009 7:09 pm

sounds good Cal. I like the idea of converting the WOMT with cloaks and diffrent paint schemes. I did that with some of my Nemenorian warriors only without the conversion Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts)   Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts) EmptyThu Sep 24, 2009 10:17 pm

Speaking of Numenoreans, you must remind me to post up my current efforts at personalising them (see picture for my inspiration). Unfortunately it looks more like a dress and my greenstuffing is aweful.
Anyway, that's for another discussion.

Always wanted to add cloaks after reading about the Ramas guard wearing them and asking why couldn't I use them? WoMT are too silver, so some contrast will be nice. Also the black is a little boring, so I'm hoping to get away with some dark blue or something, maybe with some designs or something on it. Now I'm pondering the use of Numenorean heads... Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts)   Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts) EmptySat Sep 26, 2009 6:26 pm

A very well thought out army I must say. My favourite bit about it however is that all the warriors are fight four (exception being the Osgiliath Vets. Unless they escort Faramir which I am quite sure that they will)! F4 is very effective against the forces of Mordor. I like the addition of the Avenger Bolt Thrower, they can carve up plenty of warriors before the enemy even gets close! Plenty of bows aswell. However, you may be over bow limit if you are using LOME rules (and if my calculations are correct). Even if you took rangers from the Feifdom's list (max. 7), you would still not have enough warriors from the Rangers of Ithilien list to cover the remaining 18 (+Damrod) bows left in that portion of you army. (18/47x100=38.3%) - not 33%! Apart from that I think your list is very solid!
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts)   Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts) EmptySat Sep 26, 2009 10:21 pm

Yeah, bow limit is an issue I realised when posting it. I'd actually forgotten that Rangers could be taken from fiefdoms, so that could help there, as well as the Tower of Ecthelion? Though I think I'd have to count some as not having bows or swap them out for more vets or something. I'll get round to it Wink
And Damrod, being a hero, doesn't count towards bow limit, neither does my Faramir stand-in.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts)   Defenders of Linhir (Gondor 1000pts) EmptySun Sep 27, 2009 9:45 am

Oppps! True, I forgot that they didn't count towards bow limit. Embarassed

Sorry about that!

- No. Unfortunately Tower of Ecthelion does not have Rangers of Gondor as an option. I can see why not but it's still alittle strange...
Still a very good list!
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