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PostSubject: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyWed Dec 02, 2009 7:10 pm

I want to build an army using the Rohan army list and Ents. Around 750 points. But the problem is i have 0 experience with either army. So can i please get some help on this.
Oh and i definetly want Eomer in this
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyWed Dec 02, 2009 7:13 pm

For 750 points you could probably have 2 Ents, Eomer and a bunch of Riders of Rohan, maybe a couple of Royal Guard or Outriders.

I haven't the rulebook with me at the moment but when I get it I'll try and write a couple of options for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyWed Dec 02, 2009 7:15 pm

Thanks. I don't mean to be a hassel. I just don't have my rulebook either right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyWed Dec 02, 2009 7:16 pm

No worries, I have a an army list I have to write up myself anyway so writing one extra isn't a problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 3:46 am

How about something like the following - just something I drummed up now:

Eomer
+ horse

6 Rohan Royal Guard

8 Riders of Rohan

8 Warriors of Rohan
shields and throwing spears

7 Warriors of Rohan
shields

Quickbeam
(simply a converted Ent as I don't think GW has released a model - or profile for that matter)

2 Ents

749pts
33 models
5(?) might


Its not the most competitive of lists but its a good place to start if your looking to build an army with a combination of both lists. I've tried to take into account how much of everything there will be in each box - if you're just starting a new army the last thing you want to be doing is buying a £16 box from which you only need two or three models.

The list is rather low on numbers but hopefully the three giant talking trees will make up for that. You also have Eomer and a good contingent of cavalry for added mobility - although the Riders do make up the enitiry of your shooting enabled models.
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 11:16 am

Thats a cool army. But it is lacking a bit on the archer side. If i find a way to work around that, this could end up being similar to my list
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 11:21 am

That army actually would work very well on a heavily terrain covered battlefield (which I try to do whenever I game). Make sure those cavalry hit the flanks and the infantry go up the middle amid all the terrain, using the Ents primarily as support units. Ensure that no one gets surrounded or trapped and victory should be easy for you Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 11:39 am

Hmm...the problem with Rohan and archers is that unless you're willing to take a loss and drop the RoR's bows you'll often find you can't squeeze both foot archers and cavalry in...

How about something more like this?

Eomer
+ horse

3 Rohan Royal Guard
+ horses

8 Riders of Rohan
without bows

16 Warriors of Rohan
+ shields and throwing spears

12 Warriors of Rohan
+ bows

Quickbeam

Beechbone

750pts
42 models
7(?) might


Although I'm never keen on dropping RoR's bows I actually prefer this list. It does mean you'll have more models left over from what you've bought but its a good starting point. Numbers are much better in tyhis list but are still low...but that's to be expected with Ents and cavalry... You could always drop the cavalry altogether in favour of the Ent setup from the last list and some more infantry but it's down to your own preferences really.
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 12:36 pm

I definitely prefer the first list you put up, I think ill go with something like that
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyThu Dec 03, 2009 8:38 pm

Although IMO, the second list is probably technically superior, it really depends on how you play and who you're playing aginst. Besides, if you're starrting the army entirely from scratch I'd probably go with the first as its a better opint to start from and build upon.
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyFri Dec 04, 2009 10:13 am

Oh and RC, if you make the list, could you try to make a 1200 Point list if thats not to much trouble. I may enter the competition.
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptyFri Dec 04, 2009 5:35 pm

No problem Smile

I'll try and get something cooked up this afternoon as I'll be able to access a rulebook then.
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptySat Dec 05, 2009 8:50 am

Not sure what you wanted so I cooked something up quickly, you're welcome to change it to your liking. Just remember I'm not the best at army list writing in the world Razz

Eomer Marshall of the Riddermark w/shield + horse
Gamling w/Royal Standard of Rohan + horse
Treabeard
2 Rohan Outriders w/horses
8 Rohan Royal Guard w/throwing spears + horses
12 Riders of Rohan
12 Riders of Rohan w/throwing spears

It's low numbers for 1200 points however includes 2 ents, treabeard and is fully mounted. It's also dead on 1200 points exactly.

Also cannot quite remember rules on throwing spears and whether or not they count towards the bow limit (not having played in almost a year etc.) so that might need to be adjusted, though do Riders of Rohan count due to all being equipped with bows anyway and their expert rider rule?

Hope it'll do for now. Like I said I'm not exactly the best at writing army lists and I haven't played for ages.
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptySat Dec 05, 2009 12:00 pm

Just had a quikc look ofver the list and a few observations.

Have you forgotten to put the ents in the list? You talk about two ents and treebeard but only he is in the list given... Probably just a typo but thought I'd point it out

Throwing spears do not count toward the bow limit so they aren't a problem. However, as all RoR carry bows as part of their standard equipment the list is currently over thge bow limit. This can easily be resolved by declaring that only 18 RoR are carrying bows - but perhaps them all carying bows was an important aspect?

Ther's also the amount of might - or rather - how well you will be able to spread it effectively. Obviously the outriders will have to stick with Gamling leaving Eomer and Treebear to cover the rest of the army - and when all models have large bases and are particularly reliant on Heroic moves.
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptySat Dec 05, 2009 12:06 pm

Yeah forgot to put the 2 ents in Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Ents and Riders 750pts   Ents and Riders 750pts EmptySat Dec 05, 2009 4:19 pm

oooh. I like it. Maybe a bit pricey but ill see if i can do it one day. Thanks guys for your help. And if i do give up on 1200 pnts ill probably be using your first one Artificialwinter
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