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LordSarnoc Farmer
Posts : 12 Reputation : 1 Location : The wooded glades of Ithilien Join date : 2009-09-06
| Subject: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:11 am | |
| According to quite a few film sites the much rumoured production of Pirates of the Caribbean 4 is due on a timeline of release in 2011, and will be named ' Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides'. The news was released yesterday (September 11), apparently by Johnny Depp in Jack Sparrow mode... Good news or not? Read the story hereLS |
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Radagastbird Warrior
Main Army : Dwarves Posts : 111 Reputation : 1 Age : 31 Location : Niamey, Niger Join date : 2009-09-04
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:16 am | |
| Wow, they just can't stop can they I'd be rather glad if this rumor turns out to be true, though |
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jaws900 Conqueror
Posts : 1215 Reputation : 4 Age : 35 Location : Poole - England Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:43 am | |
| As much as i would love a 4th it should have stopped after 3. Everything was tied up in a neat little package. Will got his Dad back and got marryed, Jack was in a diggy again since barbosa.....i'm not going to spoil that much. It was good and it doens't need another in my opion. |
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LordFenrir The Dog Lord
Main Army : Khand Posts : 443 Reputation : 16 Age : 35 Location : Bowling Green, Ohio, USA Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:03 pm | |
| From what I hear it'll be Jack vs Barbossa in a race to get the Fountain of Youth. It also will be a lot more character dirven than the last two films (akin to Curse of the Black Pearl ) I can't wait meself! Depp and Mr Rush are perfect in the portrayal of their pirate characters |
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Dînadan MoMe Underlord
Main Army : Alkalabeth Posts : 1250 Reputation : 8 Age : 36 Location : South Wales Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:16 pm | |
| Hmm, interesting. Hope that Fen's info is acurate, as otherwise it'd be a real letdown :/ |
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LordSarnoc Farmer
Posts : 12 Reputation : 1 Location : The wooded glades of Ithilien Join date : 2009-09-06
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:30 am | |
| Hope so too: I loved all three films, and the third really set up a fourth with that ending.., I know some people have expressed dislike of the idea of a fourth, feeling that the end of the third was a good note to go out on, and perhaps disliking the idea that Will and Elizabeth will be dropped. Personally, I was really hoping for a fourth.. Go PotC4! |
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Red Corsairs MoMe Overlord
Main Army : Gondor Posts : 1162 Reputation : 15 Location : Market Deeping Join date : 2009-09-01
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:37 pm | |
| I too hope Fenrir is right, The Curse of the Black Pearl was brilliant, with all the competition between Sparrow and Barbosa. |
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daniel587 Farmer
Posts : 4 Reputation : 1 Join date : 2010-09-08
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:02 am | |
| They Should have stopped while they were ahead.... |
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Hirumith, the Grey Knight Farmer
Posts : 31 Reputation : 4 Join date : 2010-07-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:42 am | |
| - daniel587 wrote:
- They Should have stopped while they were ahead....
After the 1st movie? Personally I thought that was the best, and they were only downhill from there (not to say that 2 and 3 weren't good, I definitely love the series, I just think the 1st movie still stands out as the best). As far as the 4th, I certainly hope LordFenrir's info is right, too. In fact, that's kind of what I had assumed it would be, and based on the way they set it up in the end of the last movie, I have a hard time guessing what else it would be. Either way, I'm definitely looking forward to it. |
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Dînadan MoMe Underlord
Main Army : Alkalabeth Posts : 1250 Reputation : 8 Age : 36 Location : South Wales Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:36 pm | |
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LordFenrir The Dog Lord
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| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:35 am | |
| Bloody brilliant is all I can say! I can't wait for this movie |
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Red Corsairs MoMe Overlord
Main Army : Gondor Posts : 1162 Reputation : 15 Location : Market Deeping Join date : 2009-09-01
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:42 am | |
| The trailer looks brilliant. Truly cannot wait for this film. Keith Richards! |
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Dînadan MoMe Underlord
Main Army : Alkalabeth Posts : 1250 Reputation : 8 Age : 36 Location : South Wales Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Fri May 20, 2011 5:11 am | |
| Just come back from watching it - very good film; don't think it was quite as good as the first, but better than two and three in my opinion. That said, there does seem to be a wasted subplot in the form of - Spoiler:
the Spainish. They appear at the very begining to spark off the film, make a brief appearance a bit later to make Barbosa get a move on (not that he really needed it), appear a while later soley to sidetrack Jack so he can enact a nice fancy escape sequence and appear near the end to destroy the Fountain (read create some tension on whether Jack'll use the Fountain himself or save the film's action girl) then disapeer. One plot hole has got to be why they just let Barbosa, Blackbeard's crew and the British officers just gorather than kill them considering Spain and Britain were enemies If you don't want to wait through the credits to see the bonus scene (and I wouldn't blame you if you didn't - they were so long that the lights came back on and a cleaner entered about halfway through them) then don't worry, you're not missing much, although - Spoiler:
of all four post-credit scenes, this may be worth watching as it's a definate sequal hook, unlike the extra laugh of the first and second and closure of the third. All that happens is you see Angelica sitting on a beach and the Jack voodoo doll washes ashore.
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Cal585 Maiar
Main Army : Gondor Posts : 395 Reputation : 7 Age : 33 Location : Terra Australis Join date : 2009-09-07
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Sun May 22, 2011 7:45 pm | |
| Just got back from seeing it, and I quite liked it. One of the better movies I though (though I loved them all). Maybe simply because they didn't focus on immortal characters that can only be defeated by one chance of tricking them. - Spoiler:
Having said that, there were still frustratingly seemingly invincible zombie crew and a powerful magic sword, but i'm going to imagine the zombie can be defeated.
Adressing your spoilers: - Spoiler:
I quite liked the Spanish, particularly their dramatic entrance. I thought they were warranted as a third party trying to beat the other two. I mean, they did get the Chalices first. But primarily they were a Catholic force, and weren't interested in engaging in a fight with the others when they were already fighting and leaving. Not to mention that they were pretty much all pirates and beneath them.
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Upon seeing the doll, I originally thought she'd take revenge through physical manipulation until my friend suggested it signified Jack returning for her.
Two unanswered questions: - Spoiler:
1. Does the Missionary get saved? Or did she manipulate him? 2. How does he get the Pearl out of the bottle?
And two major logic issues I had with the film: - Spoiler:
1. when Jack is escaping, how does he manage to pull the palm tree over to him without his tree moving at all? And how does he get his ropes over the branches? 2. With the ship on top of the cliff (I'm going to assume there's a reason it got up there), why does it tip backwards and forwards? Surely it would only tilt in one direction?
Sorry for all the spoilers. But yes, great film. I've seen a lot of mixed reviews, but I quite enjoyed it. |
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Dînadan MoMe Underlord
Main Army : Alkalabeth Posts : 1250 Reputation : 8 Age : 36 Location : South Wales Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Sun May 22, 2011 9:45 pm | |
| - Cal585 wrote:
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Having said that, there were still frustratingly seemingly invincible zombie crew and a powerful magic sword, but i'm going to imagine the zombie can be defeated.
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True, but the zombies were really no more powerful than the crew of the Pearl were in the first film. - Quote :
- Adressing your spoilers:
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I quite liked the Spanish, particularly their dramatic entrance. I thought they were warranted as a third party trying to beat the other two. I mean, they did get the Chalices first. But primarily they were a Catholic force, and weren't interested in engaging in a fight with the others when they were already fighting and leaving. Not to mention that they were pretty much all pirates and beneath them.
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I'm not saying the Spannish were unwarrented, just that they seem underused to me and I would have liked to see them appearing in a more prominant role. Yes they did get the Chalices first, but it really seemed more like an excuse for Jack to have a fancy action sequence than an actual plot point. As for 'pirates and beneath them', Pirates were a major military threat, and that group included several British officers - I'm not sure if Britain and Spain were actively at war at the time, but if not, then there were definately tensions and the Spanish would want to undermine them at any oportunity. - Quote :
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Upon seeing the doll, I originally thought she'd take revenge through physical manipulation until my friend suggested it signified Jack returning for her.
Maybe, but that's just not Jack's style. - Quote :
- Two unanswered questions:
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1. Does the Missionary get saved? Or did she manipulate him? 2. How does he get the Pearl out of the bottle?
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1. Not sure. If I recall, he was mortally wounded anyway - maybe he was dying and she was taking him down so that he could die happily. 2. Well, you might aswell ask how it got in there in the first place - perhaps he smashes the bottle or uncorks it and the magic auto releases it?
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- And two major logic issues I had with the film:
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2. With the ship on top of the cliff (I'm going to assume there's a reason it got up there), why does it tip backwards and forwards? Surely it would only tilt in one direction?
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Actually it would tilt in both directions, but only back to level really. Only thing I can think of is that it's not on top of a cliff as such (i.e. there's not a flat level at the top of the cliff), but instead is perched on a point which would act as a fulcrum - mempry's a bit hazy, but if I recall, we only see it from below.
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LordFenrir The Dog Lord
Main Army : Khand Posts : 443 Reputation : 16 Age : 35 Location : Bowling Green, Ohio, USA Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Thu May 26, 2011 8:59 am | |
| Addressing the missionary question: it's said in exposition when they first catch the mermaid that a mermaid's kiss can heal wounds and prevent humans from ever drowning. The screenwriters have stated that these are true, not just what the characters in the movieverse have speculated. So he can live with his mermaid lover Under da Sea...sort of the opposite plot of the Little Mermaid |
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Dînadan MoMe Underlord
Main Army : Alkalabeth Posts : 1250 Reputation : 8 Age : 36 Location : South Wales Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Thu May 26, 2011 4:33 pm | |
| - LordFenrir wrote:
- Addressing the missionary question: it's said in exposition when they first catch the mermaid that a mermaid's kiss can heal wounds and prevent humans from ever drowning. The screenwriters have stated that these are true, not just what the characters in the movieverse have speculated.
Don't the characters also say the mermaids kill those they take down? - Quote :
- So he can live with his mermaid lover Under da Sea...sort of the opposite plot of the Little Mermaid
Care to elabourate for those of us who've never seen that film? |
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LordFenrir The Dog Lord
Main Army : Khand Posts : 443 Reputation : 16 Age : 35 Location : Bowling Green, Ohio, USA Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Thu May 26, 2011 8:21 pm | |
| 1.) Normal mermaids do, but I would hardly think that one who loves a human would actually eat him when they could just live happily together. 2.) NO! Go on YouTube and watch it now |
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Dînadan MoMe Underlord
Main Army : Alkalabeth Posts : 1250 Reputation : 8 Age : 36 Location : South Wales Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Fri May 27, 2011 2:54 am | |
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jaws900 Conqueror
Posts : 1215 Reputation : 4 Age : 35 Location : Poole - England Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Fri May 27, 2011 5:57 pm | |
| What are you looking at me for. I am a mainly m,and who would never watch a girly film like that Mulan however |
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Cal585 Maiar
Main Army : Gondor Posts : 395 Reputation : 7 Age : 33 Location : Terra Australis Join date : 2009-09-07
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Sun May 29, 2011 12:59 am | |
| And the point was raised that she was different to other mermaids. There's 2 ways I think about this: 1. She was playing him all along and ended up killing him anyway 2. they're now living together (I'm assuming there'd be an official marriage ceremony and everything). He's either human, a merman or a mermaid (though that would put quite a damper on their relationship one would imagine) - Dînadan wrote:
- Cal585 wrote:
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Having said that, there were still frustratingly seemingly invincible zombie crew and a powerful magic sword, but i'm going to imagine the zombie can be defeated.
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True, but the zombies were really no more powerful than the crew of the Pearl were in the first film.
Yes, and I hated the crew of the pearl in the first one. Loved everything about the movie except for that. I like things that make sense, and guys that can't be killed unless you deceive them into giving up their immortality is not a viable weakness to me. I mean, except for the very specific circumstances with what happened, they were undefeatable. I'd prefer they were somewhat like Captain Jack from Dr Who and you could temporarily gain an edge over them... Same with the fishmen from the 2nd and 3rd.
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I quite liked the Spanish, particularly their dramatic entrance. I thought they were warranted as a third party trying to beat the other two. I mean, they did get the Chalices first. But primarily they were a Catholic force, and weren't interested in engaging in a fight with the others when they were already fighting and leaving. Not to mention that they were pretty much all pirates and beneath them.
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I'm not saying the Spannish were unwarrented, just that they seem underused to me and I would have liked to see them appearing in a more prominant role. Yes they did get the Chalices first, but it really seemed more like an excuse for Jack to have a fancy action sequence than an actual plot point. As for 'pirates and beneath them', Pirates were a major military threat, and that group included several British officers - I'm not sure if Britain and Spain were actively at war at the time, but if not, then there were definately tensions and the Spanish would want to undermine them at any oportunity.
Well, to the British officers weren't really present by that stage... So it kinda was a pirate band, and didn't they leave while the Spanish were still there? They were too busy on their primary goal to get sidetracked. But yes, I would've also liked to see them a bit more. They were kinda cool. I suppose there had to be someone's Navy in there
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Upon seeing the doll, I originally thought she'd take revenge through physical manipulation until my friend suggested it signified Jack returning for her.
Maybe, but that's just not Jack's style.
Isn't it? He's clearly smitten (I mean he seems to almost cave at the end) and there was the precedent of the doll going off the cliff.
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- And two major logic issues I had with the film:
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2. With the ship on top of the cliff (I'm going to assume there's a reason it got up there), why does it tip backwards and forwards? Surely it would only tilt in one direction?
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Actually it would tilt in both directions, but only back to level really. Only thing I can think of is that it's not on top of a cliff as such (i.e. there's not a flat level at the top of the cliff), but instead is perched on a point which would act as a fulcrum - mempry's a bit hazy, but if I recall, we only see it from below.
So it falls back to level ground. What's wrong with that? Makes things a whole lot easier. Unless it was unable to reach and would snap and then fall... |
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Dînadan MoMe Underlord
Main Army : Alkalabeth Posts : 1250 Reputation : 8 Age : 36 Location : South Wales Join date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Sun May 29, 2011 5:19 am | |
| - Cal585 wrote:
So it falls back to level ground. What's wrong with that? Makes things a whole lot easier. Unless it was unable to reach and would snap and then fall... Nothing, but in the film it seesaws as I recall - I was just saying that to seesaw, it wouldn't be tottering on the edge, but rather would be positioned on a fulcrum. That said, another thing has occured to me - the rocking could have been side to side rather than forwards/backwards. With the shape of a ship's bottom it could tilt in two directions while being on level ground. |
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Cal585 Maiar
Main Army : Gondor Posts : 395 Reputation : 7 Age : 33 Location : Terra Australis Join date : 2009-09-07
| Subject: Re: Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Mon May 30, 2011 5:08 pm | |
| That is true, and I suppose it could have some merit. Oh well. good film |
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